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- From: jtv@xs4all.nl (Jeroen T. Vermeulen)
- Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
- Subject: Re: Is it Adios Amiga again? (AT sold out!)
- Date: Mon, 15 Apr 96 00:15:05
- Organization: Leiden University, Mathematics & Computer Science, The Netherlands
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- In article <4km6g1$gbv@sam.inforamp.net> doczim@inforamp.net (Jim Ogilvie) writes:
-
- > That depends on your definition of "dead". New development for the
- > Amiga has been shrunk to near nothing. The Amigas very last hope,
- > Escom, has abandoned the machine. There's no new software to speak of,
- > no new hardware to speak of. This, in my view, means "dead". The
- > Amiga, in my view, was officially dead when Commodore folded. The
- > exodus of Amiga developers began then. Without developers, there is no
- > future.
-
- Conclusion: The "death" of the Amiga, as perceived by you, is no more than
- wishful thinking. New software is being developed, new developers are slowly
- emerging, developers who were planning to leave have decided to stay; all this
- since "official" death. A new hardware generation is being developed, involving
- several companies plus Dave Haynie; a prototype for a short-term new product has
- been shown and a new OS version developed.
-
- And now, the Amiga is back in American hands and set for an even larger market.
- Many more of the original Amiga team are once again involved in development.
- Several compilers are already available or in development for the PPC Amigas,
- and PCI support is emerging from more than one company.
-
- Yes, we're in a poor position. But at least our situation is looking up when
- the PC world is in the first stages of decline. So in my opinion, and you can't
- imagine how grateful I am for the opportunity to say this to a Doomsayer instead
- of the other way round, "you're dreaming, pal. Snap out of it".
-
-
- > I think your observation of the state of things is pretty accurate.
- > Escom is dumping the Amiga, and they make a vague statement about
- > continued support. I think only the blindest of the blind, and naively
- > optimistic can carve out any promise of a future based on this. Its
- > fairly plain that if the new owners of the technology had any plans to
- > support the Amiga in a computer platform, they would have been very
- > clear and repetitive about it, just so everyone got the message.
-
- Ah, but they have. Only the "blindest of the blind" could have missed it and
- only the "naively optimistic" Doomsayers can hope to Be Right This Time.
-
-
- > The reality for many has arrived long ago, and they have left. They've
- > mostly gone out and bought PC's, some of them bought Macs I guess too.
- > You don't hear from them, because they are gone.
-
- Ah, but we *do* hear from them, you see. They keep coming back. They keep
- coming back to tell us how "dead" the Amiga is. The only times they stay away
- is when they think the Amiga really is doing badly.
-
- They all tell us that reality has passed us by, that they really do love the
- Amiga but it's all over now. And they do not rest until they believe that it
- is. During the buyout period, there was no Marc Barrett. He didn't return to
- the scene until things were looking up again. Then suddenly there was also his
- neighbour Peter Sinclair-Day, amongst others, telling the exact same story.
-
- In contrast to what you suggest, many of them do claim they use Macs now. But
- that does not explain why Marc "Mac" Barrett would foretell the death of Apple
- the day before Windows 95 is released. Or why Peter "Mac" Sinclair-Day tries to
- insult an Amiga user with the words, "you're in the minority". Mac users?
- My foot. Not the words, not the deeds, and not the mentality of Mac users.
-
- All these posts tell the same story, with minor variations (some say they bought
- a PC). They all tell it in the same style, in the same phrases, with the same
- pretense of being pro-Amiga. You can smell it a mile off, and in many
- newsgroups as they're usually crossposted for maximum impact.
-
- Coincidentally, their posters are also all within a neat 500km (or so) circle
- around Chicago like yourself but that's another matter.
-
-
- > New development is simply a dream that shall
- > remain unfulfilled, and without it, there is no real future. I realize
- > that there are always small independent software developments here and
- > there, but by and large, there is nothing happening.
-
- You know what? You should be a hypnotist. I'm getting sleepy already.
-
-
- > Wish the situation were different. It isn't. It's not going to be.
- >
- > Sad, but true.
-
- Yup, it's that same smell alright!
-
- > Jim
-
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